i'll tell you why. all those folks can vote for romney, and he still needs those conservative democrats -- >> i have a theory that the people hate obama so much on the right, cynthia, and perhaps center right, they hate him so much they want to have this guy go to the center as long as he wins. your thoughts? >> that's absolutely true, chris, because people like karl rove and billy crystal know that mitt romney is an empty suit, and they can push him around if he wins the presidency. you know that old saying if you stand for nothing, you won't stand for anything? well, romney doesn't stand for anything. he doesn't really have any values or principles that he really believes in except he really wants to be president. that's why we saw that new slick version of the romney bot on wednesday night. this romney bot, they worked on him for hours in the factory making sure he had the right smile, making sure he seemed warm and sincere. well, who was that guy, michael? this is not a guy we had seen on the campai